As I glance through the early returns (8:59pm) it appears that Republicans were out voting more than Democrats and others. Race after race shows more votes cast in the Republican ballots than the Democratic ballots, with just a few exceptions.
This led me to believe that Prop. 2 would be doing poorly and that was the case. It's losing - 62. % NO to 37. % YES.
Prop. 1 is a tossup at this point with Yes slightly ahead.
Turnout appears low in the precincts reporting - under 10% if I read it right.
I was number 93 at my polling place voting machine around 3pm. They said they had 1200 registered. (But those numbers are always very high because they are so slow at getting rid of people who have moved out of state or died.)
Here's a link to the latest results HTML or PDF. (The 9:15pm posting is now up)
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Tuesday, August 28, 2012
How Many Ways Are There To Steal An Election? And Why Doesn't Anyone Care?
Americans have long taken pride in their free elections and think of voter fraud in the US as something part of history (Such as Chicago's slogan "Vote early and vote often" and stories of people voting using the names of dead voters.)
We are even proud to send observers to countries where democracy is new and governments untrustworthy. But we have plenty of stories of problems in the US.
Alaska has a primary election today. Given Anchorage's municipal election fiasco in April, voting machine expert and blogger Brad Friedman has posted about our voting machines and the elections practices that make them vulnerable to fraud in today's election:
The Economist has an article about stealing elections that lists several ways to steal an election. First a few based on a study by a University of Essex researcher.
If I were going to steal an election by tampering with the machines, I'd try out some things in elections before I wanted to strike. Maybe someplace remote, like Alaska. Test things out, lull the public into believing that, "well there are problems, but no one actually fixed the election." That happened in Anchorage in April. Few seemed to care about all the well documented problems, "because none of the races was close." Then I would try it out on a specific race. There's a perfect one to try this on today.
In today's election, international mining interests and other resource developers like Shell ($150,000 contribution) had raised, by the end of July, over $700,000 to defeat proposition 2. (Those supporting proposition 2 had only raised $150,000.) The resource exploitation industry has an obvious interest in preventing the reactivation of the Coastal Zone Management program that existed for over 25 years in Alaska until the governor and the legislature could not agree on legislation to extend it. The video shows how little it would take to manipulate the voting machines.
We do have the advantage of having back up hard copies of ballots. But the Anchorage election in April showed how those hard copies could be mishandled. There were many, many questions about what happened to the hundreds and hundreds of questioned ballots. If any of the races had been decided by less than several hundred votes, there would have been no way to verify who was really elected.
Alaskans, elections are the foundation of democracy. Are we going to hold state election officials and legislators accountable for making our elections incorruptible?
And what happens here is happening in different scenarios around the country. So all you non-Alaskans have work to do as well. And if anyone thinks that last sentence ignored my international readers, you're included. The Irish threw out €54 million in voting machines because they weren't safe from tampering. [Mac users, you can get the Euro symbol (€) by typing Option+Shift+2]
Do we need to call the UN to send election observers to the US in November?
Other sources on stealing elections:
Foreign Policy has an article on how to steal elections that's quite similar, though it is focused on countries with few checks and balances.
The vulnerablility of voting machines from ars technica.
A long Alternet piece on stealing elections has this subtitle:
I realize the title promises something on why we don't care about this. I could change the title, but I think it's probably as important as the part on stealing elections. Let me start a list of things that make sense to me.
We are even proud to send observers to countries where democracy is new and governments untrustworthy. But we have plenty of stories of problems in the US.
Alaska has a primary election today. Given Anchorage's municipal election fiasco in April, voting machine expert and blogger Brad Friedman has posted about our voting machines and the elections practices that make them vulnerable to fraud in today's election:
Of course, there are "tamper-evident" security seals placed over some of the most vulnerable parts of the optical-scan systems, and those could never be defeated without leaving visual clues behind, right?I would note that this is not a case of local bloggers being asleep, they have helped Friedman get information for this post.
Well, funny thing. In Alaska, when a security seal is discovered broken on their tabulation computers --- if they are discovered broken --- poll workers are instructed to simply replace it with another one and start the voting, as both several poll workers, as well as an Alaska election official (who has now been fired) confirmed with The BRAD BLOG. Several seals, the now former Alaska election official told us when she still had a job, are provided to poll workers to make replacing broken seals very simple, as seen in this next photo...
So why would Election Officials in the Last Frontier instruct poll workers to simply replace broken seals before the election, which would seem to defeat the entire point of using "tamper-evident" seals in the first place? It's a good question, especially when these machines --- which will be used once again in more than 1,000 jurisdictions in all or parts of 24 different states during this November's Presidential Election --- have been shown by many many official studies over the last decade to be incredibly vulnerable to nearly undetectable manipulation.
The Economist has an article about stealing elections that lists several ways to steal an election. First a few based on a study by a University of Essex researcher.
- blatant ballot stuffing (is declining)
- alter election laws (increasing)
[Republicans have used 'voter fraud' as an excuse to require photo id's to vote in a number of critical states. We know that a large proportion of people without photo id's are likely to vote Democratic (and student id's with photos are not allowed in some states). Documented cases of voter fraud are almost non-existent in these states. Critics are calling this 'election-fraud' NOT voter fraud. See NY Times "The Myth of Voter Fraud.]
- gerrymandering unlosable constituencies
[The Alaska Redistricting Board, while more careful than past boards, has managed to endanger seats of members of the Senate coalition and Fairbanks Democratic Senators and representatives by how they drew the lines.] - vote-buying,
using state resources in campaigning, and exploiting partisan media.
[More common outside the US, however the Citizens United Supreme Court decision appears to have had a similar effect by unleashing unlimited private money, in some case undisclosed, that can be spent influencing voters. And Fox News was already doing this without contributions.] - Some fraud masquerades as incompetence. From a Duke study by Judith Kelly (also in the Economist article)
- "Too few voting slips, patchy voter lists, and long queues at polling
stations distort elections as surely as burnt ballot boxes and bribes.
Yet election observers are likely to withhold their worst scoldings if
the line between cock-up and corruption is unclear."
[This is a large part of the problem we had in Anchorage in April] - "intimidation, sabotage (doors being glued shut, for example, in Russia) or manipulation" of poll watchers.
- "Another dodge is to invite more than one mission" of poll watchers (external groups coming to verify elections.)
Then there's a whole new way to steal elections in the last 20 years: - Tampering with Voting Machines
Here is a video from Princeton University showing how to steal an election by messing with the software.
If I were going to steal an election by tampering with the machines, I'd try out some things in elections before I wanted to strike. Maybe someplace remote, like Alaska. Test things out, lull the public into believing that, "well there are problems, but no one actually fixed the election." That happened in Anchorage in April. Few seemed to care about all the well documented problems, "because none of the races was close." Then I would try it out on a specific race. There's a perfect one to try this on today.
In today's election, international mining interests and other resource developers like Shell ($150,000 contribution) had raised, by the end of July, over $700,000 to defeat proposition 2. (Those supporting proposition 2 had only raised $150,000.) The resource exploitation industry has an obvious interest in preventing the reactivation of the Coastal Zone Management program that existed for over 25 years in Alaska until the governor and the legislature could not agree on legislation to extend it. The video shows how little it would take to manipulate the voting machines.
We do have the advantage of having back up hard copies of ballots. But the Anchorage election in April showed how those hard copies could be mishandled. There were many, many questions about what happened to the hundreds and hundreds of questioned ballots. If any of the races had been decided by less than several hundred votes, there would have been no way to verify who was really elected.
Alaskans, elections are the foundation of democracy. Are we going to hold state election officials and legislators accountable for making our elections incorruptible?
And what happens here is happening in different scenarios around the country. So all you non-Alaskans have work to do as well. And if anyone thinks that last sentence ignored my international readers, you're included. The Irish threw out €54 million in voting machines because they weren't safe from tampering. [Mac users, you can get the Euro symbol (€) by typing Option+Shift+2]
Do we need to call the UN to send election observers to the US in November?
Other sources on stealing elections:
Foreign Policy has an article on how to steal elections that's quite similar, though it is focused on countries with few checks and balances.
The vulnerablility of voting machines from ars technica.
A long Alternet piece on stealing elections has this subtitle:
Americans cling to an idealized image of our political integrity, but a look at how we run our elections tells a very different tale.Gallup Poll senior editor David Moore has written a couple of books on this topic as specifically relates to polling and public opinion.
I realize the title promises something on why we don't care about this. I could change the title, but I think it's probably as important as the part on stealing elections. Let me start a list of things that make sense to me.
- People commiting election fraud have gotten the media to focus on VOTER fraud.
- OK, I'm guessing about who is doing this, but googling the question comes up with stories about VOTER fraud, not election fraud.
- Those making money off voting machines have a vested interest in people believing they are safe.
- People don't know there's a problem because we don't change our basic beliefs easily. Americans have been taught that American democracy is untouchable. That's in part what the Republican platform title "American Exceptionalism" is all about.
- Some people don't care as long as it benefits their side.
- Americans are overwhelmed by things they should be worried about and so they do nothing about any of them. (Or pick an issue and work on just that one.)
Readers, you have to supply the rest.
Monday, August 27, 2012
If The Democratic Convention Were Postponed By a Hurricane . . .
You know that some of those conservatives who regularly talk with God would be telling us about divine intervention.
But, since I checked before posting this, it seems a lot of others have made similar observations.
Dana Milbank at the Washington Post fills out this thought most clearly:
Science anyone?
But, since I checked before posting this, it seems a lot of others have made similar observations.
Dana Milbank at the Washington Post fills out this thought most clearly:
By their own logic, Republicans and their conservative allies should be concerned that Isaac is a form of divine retribution. Last year, Rep. Michele Bachmann, then a Republican presidential candidate, said that the East Coast earthquake and Hurricane Irene — another “I” storm, but not an Old Testament one — were attempts by God “to get the attention of the politicians.” In remarks later termed a “joke,” she said: “It’s time for an act of God and we’re getting it.”
The influential conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck said last year that the Japanese earthquake and tsunami were God’s “message being sent” to that country. A year earlier, Christian broadcaster and former GOP presidential candidate Pat Robertson tied the Haitian earthquake to that country’s “pact to the devil.”
Previously, Robertson had argued that Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for abortion, while the Rev. John Hagee said the storm was God’s way of punishing homosexuality. The late Jerry Falwell thought that God allowed the Sept. 11 attacks as retribution for feminists and the ACLU.
Science anyone?
Sunday, August 26, 2012
Good Websites To Stretch Your Imagination
Image from bumbumbum |
I found this arresting sculpture by Bruno Catalano at bumbumbum. You can also go directly to Catalano's website to see more sculptures and links.
Image from flavorwire |
Flavorwire has a post on the 20 Most Beautiful Bookstores in the World
Image from Ready Made |
Getting a little less grandiose, Ready Made has some creative projects you can do at home, like this grass couch.
Image from Radass |
And finally, from Radass, a way to recycle the utilitarian shipping pallet. They have 34 different ideas for projects.
We haven't exhausted all the new possibilities in the world. We just have to be playful and creative.
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Saturday, August 25, 2012
Republican Platform Committee Discusses Civil Unions
For Democrats who think all Republicans are nasty and uneducated and incapable of a civil discussion, watching the Republican Platform Committee discuss amendments might be a hopeful contrast to the way Republicans often appear on television and on the internet. Even on Republican websites.
I found these videos yesterday when trying to find a copy of the draft Republican Platform. I clipped a copy of the discussion of an amendment to recognize civil unions - same sex as well as one man/one woman - and allow marriage to be a religious sacrament.
The amendment didn't pass, but the fact that it was proposed and discussed without acrimony may come as a shock to some. For that reason alone, it's worth watching. I apologize for not quite mastering the trick of making clips from C-span videos. I cut out a minute or so from the beginning.
[I thought it would play here, but if you click on the upper right corner - more info - it will take you to the clip on C-span.]
You can see the complete video (there are two days of videos) of this and other discussions by the Republican platform committee. From the hour or so that I watched, I'd say that not too many amendments seemed to pass.
I found these videos yesterday when trying to find a copy of the draft Republican Platform. I clipped a copy of the discussion of an amendment to recognize civil unions - same sex as well as one man/one woman - and allow marriage to be a religious sacrament.
The amendment didn't pass, but the fact that it was proposed and discussed without acrimony may come as a shock to some. For that reason alone, it's worth watching. I apologize for not quite mastering the trick of making clips from C-span videos. I cut out a minute or so from the beginning.
[I thought it would play here, but if you click on the upper right corner - more info - it will take you to the clip on C-span.]
You can see the complete video (there are two days of videos) of this and other discussions by the Republican platform committee. From the hour or so that I watched, I'd say that not too many amendments seemed to pass.
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Friday, August 24, 2012
Republicans Finally Agree with Democratic Stance on Abortion: "It's a distraction."
Morning Edition had a three minute piece on Rep Akin's rape/aborition comments . . .
Morning Edition host Steve Innskeep cites an LA Times report
Then he goes on:
Let me get this straight.
1. Discussion of abortion is a distraction from more important issues? It seems to me for the last 30 years the Republicans have been using abortion as a distraction from the more important issues, because it got them money and votes. But now that discussing abortion hurts Republicans and helps Democrats, it's suddenly a distraction.
2. Romney refuses to have interviews unless Akin and abortion and Romney's past support for the doctor Akin cites as the source of his 'raped women don't get pregnant' remark are off the table. Is that also going to be a condition for the presidential debates?
3. Republican consultant Rogers dismisses Akin's abortion view as irrelevant because it's "The wackiest thing said. . ." Let's play that back again slower. Akin sponsored anti-abortion legislation that Paul Ryan co-sponsors that includes banning abortion in the case of rape and incest and he justifies this because rape victims can't get pregnant. And this is irrelevant? Republicans refuse to talk about it? Sorry, it's not on my agenda, next question please - one about the economy. Why don't they just plead the fifth?
The 'distraction,' it seems to me, is that attention is being put on Republican attempts to shut down every woman's access to abortion, even rape victims. The Republican political agenda is intended to put the spotlight on the areas where they think Obama is vulnerable, and far from the areas where they are vulnerable.
This is a distraction only if you are a paid consultant whose job it is to manage what Americans are talking about, because you've failed miserably in that agenda management. Because one of the wacko (that's the Republican consultant's word not mine) politicians that you've helped get elected has escaped his handlers and said publicly what he really believes. And you know that there are a bunch more wacko politicians out there who could do the same thing. (I heard some of the Alaska versions talking crazy like this when I was blogging the legislature.)
The Republican Platform on Rape and Abortion
If you google "Republican National Platform" there are a lot of links that pop up talking about the platform and abortion - but they are all news outlets and blogs talking about the platform. Finding the platform itself is proving more difficult, at least for me. (If anyone has a link, please put it in the comments!)
C-Span reports that the draft platform has been sent to delegates for adoption on the first day of the convention, Monday.
GOP.com offers the 2008 platform.
C-Span has video of the Republican Platform meetings. I haven't looked at them, but they might offer some interesting insight into the thinking (yes, it's still thinking even if you don't agree with the conclusions) behind the Platform.
NPR reports that the platform has language that would essentially ban all abortions including the 'wacky' Akin's desire to ban abortions for rape and incest victims.
Looking at the Republican Convention website - there are no tabs that link to the Platform. Going tab to tab, I could find this mention of platform in "Features"
Morning Edition host Steve Innskeep cites an LA Times report
"that in 2008 Romney touted the support of the doctor behind the Akin theory that raped women don't get pregnant. . .
Then he goes on:
Since that detail of the story emerged, the Romney campaign has only agreed to local interviews under the conditions that the reporters agree not to ask about Akin or abortion.
"It's a distraction. We don't need any distractions, especially the week before our convention." Republican consultant Ed Rogers says this controversy is a gift to Democrats and an albatross for Romney.
"It's cost him days when he could be having a message about something else, particularly about the economy. And instead of having a message about that, we're talking about one of the wackiest things said in American politics this year . . ."
Let me get this straight.
1. Discussion of abortion is a distraction from more important issues? It seems to me for the last 30 years the Republicans have been using abortion as a distraction from the more important issues, because it got them money and votes. But now that discussing abortion hurts Republicans and helps Democrats, it's suddenly a distraction.
2. Romney refuses to have interviews unless Akin and abortion and Romney's past support for the doctor Akin cites as the source of his 'raped women don't get pregnant' remark are off the table. Is that also going to be a condition for the presidential debates?
3. Republican consultant Rogers dismisses Akin's abortion view as irrelevant because it's "The wackiest thing said. . ." Let's play that back again slower. Akin sponsored anti-abortion legislation that Paul Ryan co-sponsors that includes banning abortion in the case of rape and incest and he justifies this because rape victims can't get pregnant. And this is irrelevant? Republicans refuse to talk about it? Sorry, it's not on my agenda, next question please - one about the economy. Why don't they just plead the fifth?
The 'distraction,' it seems to me, is that attention is being put on Republican attempts to shut down every woman's access to abortion, even rape victims. The Republican political agenda is intended to put the spotlight on the areas where they think Obama is vulnerable, and far from the areas where they are vulnerable.
This is a distraction only if you are a paid consultant whose job it is to manage what Americans are talking about, because you've failed miserably in that agenda management. Because one of the wacko (that's the Republican consultant's word not mine) politicians that you've helped get elected has escaped his handlers and said publicly what he really believes. And you know that there are a bunch more wacko politicians out there who could do the same thing. (I heard some of the Alaska versions talking crazy like this when I was blogging the legislature.)
The Republican Platform on Rape and Abortion
If you google "Republican National Platform" there are a lot of links that pop up talking about the platform and abortion - but they are all news outlets and blogs talking about the platform. Finding the platform itself is proving more difficult, at least for me. (If anyone has a link, please put it in the comments!)
C-Span reports that the draft platform has been sent to delegates for adoption on the first day of the convention, Monday.
GOP.com offers the 2008 platform.
C-Span has video of the Republican Platform meetings. I haven't looked at them, but they might offer some interesting insight into the thinking (yes, it's still thinking even if you don't agree with the conclusions) behind the Platform.
NPR reports that the platform has language that would essentially ban all abortions including the 'wacky' Akin's desire to ban abortions for rape and incest victims.
. . . one of the least controversial issues discussed this week is abortion.So, while the Republican establishment is working overtime to distance themselves from Akin's comment about rape victims spontaneously avoiding pregnancy, they are pledging to ban access to abortion even for rape and incest victims. The most positive thing about this whole incident is that some Republicans understand that Akin's comments were bad. (Not necessarily bad policy, but bad PR.)
With little discussion, the committee on Tuesday adopted the same anti-abortion language it included in GOP platforms in 2004 and 2008. It seeks passage of a constitutional amendment that would extend legal rights to the unborn, essentially banning abortion.
The language in the platform includes no exceptions for rape or incest.
Looking at the Republican Convention website - there are no tabs that link to the Platform. Going tab to tab, I could find this mention of platform in "Features"
Some delegates will be chosen to represent their delegations on one of the four standing convention committees (Resolutions, sometimes referred to as the “Platform Committee;” Credentials; Rules; and Permanent Organization).The 'Get Involved" tab offers us the word platform, but a different meaning:
You can sign up to receive newsletters and other updates, join convention social media conversations or get an up-close look at convention events through our website, blog and other platforms designed to create a convention without walls.Maybe they're just waiting for it to be approved by the convention, but I'd think they would be proud of it and want to post it on their website. But - I don't do this often - what do I know?
Thursday, August 23, 2012
Did You Do Or Think Anything Today That Wasn't Media Inspired?
Suppose you had a blog post to write today. Suppose further that you wanted to write about what was most important to you. What would you write about?
Have you ever made a list of your most important values? If you have, have you tracked whether you spend your time pursuing those values?
How hard is it for us to spend our thinking time and doing time - the actual things we think about and do from the time we get up to the time we go to bed - on what we believe is truly important and valuable? And how much of our time and our thoughts are prescribed by others? (Would things be changed if we added dream time to the thinking calculation?)
How many of you would keep going to work if you were suddenly given a stipend of $100,000 a year for life? Pause a bit and think about the answer . . .
If you stopped working, what would you do? Would your life be caught up in stuff you 'have to do' because of stuff you own that needs attention (paying your bills, repairing your car or RV or boat, or iPhone, etc.)? Would you be influenced in what you did by what other people would think? Would your choices come from television shows, movies, and commercials? Or would you create options based on your most important values?
And even if you believe your work is basically worthwhile, how much of what you do at work is truly important and how much is wasted time? We only have so many hours to spend on earth. How can we spend them to best effect, whatever that means to you. Do you know what that means to you? [You mean you didn't stop to answer this? You really don't have time to figure out what's most important to you?]
Do you set your agenda based on your values, or does the media set your agenda? Or do annoying people around you set your agenda? Do people's reaction to what you do or say affect your agenda?
Thought Control?
Have you ever made a diary of the topics you discussed with people in a day and then determined which topics were media inspired (like health care, the Olympics, global warming, the Hunger Games, Iran, the Euro, Rihanna, or the latest tragedy in the world covered by the media) and how much was inspired by your life quest? (Well, if you talked about health care because you were sick, that isn't necessarily media inspired, unless you then talked about the health care system.)
Having a few days with little internet connection and little other access to news, I started asking myself questions like these. We talk so much about the importance of freedom, yet how many of us have much freedom? How many of us know what we really want to do, have come up with options that weren't planned by marketing teams trying to figure out ways to get into our wallets or into the voting booth with us, or otherwise set our brains' agendas?
And if you were to track how your thoughts were influenced by the media, would that be an original act, or would it be influenced by reading this blog?
Obviously, being influenced by others isn't, by itself, a bad thing.
But we shouldn't be ping-pong balls bouncing back and forth from headline to headline. Rather we should develop some basic sense of who we are and what's important and when a passing idea will help us get where we want to go, it's fine to grab it and use it. Or even when it causes us to question where we want to go. But that shouldn't be happening five times a day or even five times a week. Cutting off from 'the media' for a few days is healthy. Anything really important we'll find out about when we turn it back on. The rest we can do without. . .
Have you ever made a list of your most important values? If you have, have you tracked whether you spend your time pursuing those values?
How hard is it for us to spend our thinking time and doing time - the actual things we think about and do from the time we get up to the time we go to bed - on what we believe is truly important and valuable? And how much of our time and our thoughts are prescribed by others? (Would things be changed if we added dream time to the thinking calculation?)
How many of you would keep going to work if you were suddenly given a stipend of $100,000 a year for life? Pause a bit and think about the answer . . .
If you stopped working, what would you do? Would your life be caught up in stuff you 'have to do' because of stuff you own that needs attention (paying your bills, repairing your car or RV or boat, or iPhone, etc.)? Would you be influenced in what you did by what other people would think? Would your choices come from television shows, movies, and commercials? Or would you create options based on your most important values?
And even if you believe your work is basically worthwhile, how much of what you do at work is truly important and how much is wasted time? We only have so many hours to spend on earth. How can we spend them to best effect, whatever that means to you. Do you know what that means to you? [You mean you didn't stop to answer this? You really don't have time to figure out what's most important to you?]
Do you set your agenda based on your values, or does the media set your agenda? Or do annoying people around you set your agenda? Do people's reaction to what you do or say affect your agenda?
Thought Control?
Have you ever made a diary of the topics you discussed with people in a day and then determined which topics were media inspired (like health care, the Olympics, global warming, the Hunger Games, Iran, the Euro, Rihanna, or the latest tragedy in the world covered by the media) and how much was inspired by your life quest? (Well, if you talked about health care because you were sick, that isn't necessarily media inspired, unless you then talked about the health care system.)
Having a few days with little internet connection and little other access to news, I started asking myself questions like these. We talk so much about the importance of freedom, yet how many of us have much freedom? How many of us know what we really want to do, have come up with options that weren't planned by marketing teams trying to figure out ways to get into our wallets or into the voting booth with us, or otherwise set our brains' agendas?
And if you were to track how your thoughts were influenced by the media, would that be an original act, or would it be influenced by reading this blog?
Obviously, being influenced by others isn't, by itself, a bad thing.
But we shouldn't be ping-pong balls bouncing back and forth from headline to headline. Rather we should develop some basic sense of who we are and what's important and when a passing idea will help us get where we want to go, it's fine to grab it and use it. Or even when it causes us to question where we want to go. But that shouldn't be happening five times a day or even five times a week. Cutting off from 'the media' for a few days is healthy. Anything really important we'll find out about when we turn it back on. The rest we can do without. . .
Wednesday, August 22, 2012
If You Vote For Obama Are You Voting For A War Criminal?
Obama's continuation of many of the Bush administration's war on terrorism actions are troubling - torture, the right to kill American citizens who are terrorists, the continued war in Afghanistan, etc.
Shannyn Moore posted a loooong conversation between John Cusack (the actor, who is also, clearly someone who thinks) and Jonathon Turlock a law professor and expert for various media.
Basically, they ask the question - Can you really vote for a president who violates the constitution and commits war crimes because "he's better than Romney" or because "I like his social programs?"
My personal rational has been that if a Republican appoints the next two Supreme Court justices, the chance to save democracy will be postponed another generation.
There is also the assumption they make that Obama is in fact a war criminal. It seems that they are guilty of convicting him without a trial, the same crime they accuse him of with his powers to assassinate people like Osama bin Laden, and worse, American citizens. It's seriously disturbing, and that's why the media should cover it so there can be a full blown debate and the facts and interpretations can be examined.
Crossing the Rubicon is the metaphor they use repeatedly - is there no point past which Obama could go before you wouldn't vote for him?
The alternatives to voting for Obama aren't nearly as well developed as the argument that he is a war criminal.
So, I guess now we need to be sending messages to Obama that we are voting for one of the third party candidates unless he pledges to change his ways. USA Today reported that there would be five third parties that will be on the ballots in more than five states:
Here are some excerpts from the conversation between Turley and Cusack:
Some of the charges against Obama:
Who Ya Gonna Vote For?
Shannyn Moore posted a loooong conversation between John Cusack (the actor, who is also, clearly someone who thinks) and Jonathon Turlock a law professor and expert for various media.
Basically, they ask the question - Can you really vote for a president who violates the constitution and commits war crimes because "he's better than Romney" or because "I like his social programs?"
My personal rational has been that if a Republican appoints the next two Supreme Court justices, the chance to save democracy will be postponed another generation.
There is also the assumption they make that Obama is in fact a war criminal. It seems that they are guilty of convicting him without a trial, the same crime they accuse him of with his powers to assassinate people like Osama bin Laden, and worse, American citizens. It's seriously disturbing, and that's why the media should cover it so there can be a full blown debate and the facts and interpretations can be examined.
Crossing the Rubicon is the metaphor they use repeatedly - is there no point past which Obama could go before you wouldn't vote for him?
The alternatives to voting for Obama aren't nearly as well developed as the argument that he is a war criminal.
“Look, you’re not helping Obama by enabling him. If you want to help him, hold his feet to the fire.”If, like me, you live in a strongly red state, you can vote for a third party candidate as a protest vote. No matter how I vote, it won't cost Obama any electoral votes. People in blue states run the risk of too many people protesting and giving electoral votes to Romney. When people voted for Nader in 2000 they were blamed for losing the election and the mainstream Democrats didn't get the message that people were protesting Clinton's moving so far to the right.
Turley: Exactly.
So, I guess now we need to be sending messages to Obama that we are voting for one of the third party candidates unless he pledges to change his ways. USA Today reported that there would be five third parties that will be on the ballots in more than five states:
Here are some excerpts from the conversation between Turley and Cusack:
Some of the charges against Obama:
Turley: Well, President Obama outdid President Bush. He ordered the killing of two U.S. citizens as the primary targets and has then gone forward and put out a policy that allows him to kill any American citizen when he unilaterally determines them to be a terrorist threat. Where President Bush had a citizen killed as collateral damage, President Obama has actually a formal policy allowing him to kill any U.S. citizen. . .On the lack of media coverage:
Cusack: Does that order have to come directly from Obama, or can his underlings carry that out on his behalf as part of a generalized understanding? Or does he have to personally say, “You can get that guy and that guy?”
Turley: Well, he has delegated the authority to the so-called death panel, which is, of course, hilarious, since the Republicans keep talking about a nonexistent death panel in national healthcare. We actually do have a death panel, and it’s killing people who are healthy. . .
Turley: Well, the framers knew what it was like to have sovereigns kill citizens without due process. They did it all the time back in the 18th century. They wrote a constitution specifically to bar unilateral authority.
James Madison is often quoted for his observation that if all men were angels, no government would be necessary. And what he was saying is that you have to create a system of law that has checks and balances so that even imperfect human beings are restrained from doing much harm. Madison and other framers did not want to rely on the promises of good motivations or good intents from the government. They created a system where no branch had enough authority to govern alone — a system of shared and balanced powers.
So what Obama’s doing is to rewrite the most fundamental principle of the U.S. Constitution. The whole point of the Holder speech was that we’re really good guys who take this seriously, and you can trust us. That’s exactly the argument the framers rejected, the “trust me” principle of government. You’ll notice when Romney was asked about this, he said, “I would’ve signed the same law, because I trust Obama to do the right thing.” They’re both using the very argument that the framers warned citizens never to accept from their government. . .
Cusack: Oscar Wilde said most journalists would fall under the category of those who couldn’t tell the difference between a bicycle accident and the end of civilization. But why is it that all the journalists that you see mostly on MSNBC or most of the progressives, or so-called progressives, who believe that under Bush and Cheney and Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzalez these were great and grave constitutional crises, the wars were an going moral fiasco’s — but now, since we have a friendly face in the White House, someone with kind of pleasing aesthetics and some new policies we like, now all of a sudden these aren’t crimes, there’s no crisis. Because he’s our guy? Go, team, go? . . .It seems to me that there was media coverage about the Bush administration because there were lots of Democrats opposed to what Bush was doing. But there isn't any noticeable Republican opposition to torture or assassination so there is no opposition and the press doesn't cover it.
Who Ya Gonna Vote For?
And so then it gets down to the question, “Well, are you going to vote for Obama?” And I say, “Well, I don’t really know. I couldn’t really vote for Hillary Clinton because of her Iraq War vote.” Because I felt like that was a line, a Rubicon line –
Turley: Right.
Cusack: — a Rubicon line that I couldn’t cross, right? I don’t know how to bring myself to vote for a constitutional law professor, or even a constitutional realist, who throws away due process and claims the authority that the executive branch can assassinate American citizens. I just don’t know if I can bring myself to do it.
If you want to make a protest vote against Romney, go ahead, but I would think we’d be better putting our energies into local and state politics — occupy Wall Street and organizations and movements outside the system, not national politics, not personalities. Not stadium rock politics. Not brands. That’s the only thing I can think of. What would you say?
Turley: Well, the question, I think, that people have got to ask themselves when they get into that booth is not what Obama has become, but what have we become? That is, what’s left of our values if we vote for a person that we believe has shielded war crimes or violated due process or implemented authoritarian powers. It’s not enough to say, “Yeah, he did all those things, but I really like what he did with the National Park System.”
Cusack: Yeah, or that he did a good job with the auto bailout.
Turley: Right. I think that people have to accept that they own this decision, that they can walk away. I realize that this is a tough decision for people but maybe, if enough people walked away, we could finally galvanize people into action to make serious changes. We have to recognize that our political system is fundamentally broken, it’s unresponsive. Only 11 percent of the public supports Congress, and yet nothing is changing — and so the question becomes, how do you jumpstart that system? How do you create an alternative? What we have learned from past elections is that you don’t create an alternative by yielding to this false dichotomy that only reinforces their monopoly on power.
Cusack: I think that even Howard Zinn/Chomsky progressives, would admit that there will be a difference in domestic policy between Obama and a Romney presidency.
But DUE PROCESS….I think about how we own it. We own it. Everybody’s sort of let it slip. There’s no immediacy in the day-to-day on and it’s just one of those things that unless they… when they start pulling kids off the street, like they did in Argentina a few years ago and other places, all of a sudden, it’s like, “How the hell did that happen?” I say, “Look, you’re not helping Obama by enabling him. If you want to help him, hold his feet to the fire.”
Turley: Exactly.
Cusack: The problem is, as I see it, is that regardless of goodwill and intent and people being tired of the status quo and everything else, the information outlets and the powers that be reconstruct or construct the government narrative only as an election game of ‘us versus them,’ Obama versus Romney, and if you do anything that will compromise that equation, you are picking one side versus the other. Because don’t you realize that’s going to hurt Obama? Don’t you know that’s going to help Obama? Don’t you know… and they’re not thinking through their own sort of self-interest or the community’s interest in just changing the way that this whole thing works to the benefit of the majority. We used to have some lines we wouldn’t cross–some people who said this is not what this country does …we don’t do this shit, you had to do the right thing. So it’s going to be a tough process getting our rights back, but you know Frankie’s Law? Whoever stops fighting first – loses.
Turley: Right.
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Tuesday, August 21, 2012
How Many Others Who Serve in House With Akin Agree With Him, But Don't Say So Publicly?
Todd Akin has been a member of the House of Representatives for six terms - that's 12 years. He's been voting on issues relating to women and all sorts of other topics.
His old House district (it's been changed with redistricting) is just west and north of St. Louis. These are the people responsible for his being in Congress.
At 8:47pm Alaska time, these are Akin's most recent tweets:
Let's see, these liberal elites include:
But my question is how many more members of congress feel as he does, but just keep quiet about it and use other reasons to explain their anti-women votes?
from Akin's website |
At 8:47pm Alaska time, these are Akin's most recent tweets:
- I am
#stillstanding. Will you stand with me?
- I apologized but the liberal media is trying to make me drop out. Please stand w/ me tonight by signing my petition at http://www.akin.org/still-standing
Let's see, these liberal elites include:
- Mitt Romney
- Paul Ryan
- Sean Hannity
- And a whole slew of other top Republican politicians and funders.
But my question is how many more members of congress feel as he does, but just keep quiet about it and use other reasons to explain their anti-women votes?
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