Showing posts with label biking/running/skiing. Show all posts
Showing posts with label biking/running/skiing. Show all posts

Sunday, January 24, 2010

STAY OFF THE FLUME


That was the subject line on an email from a Juneau reader after last week's post about the Flume Trail.  I thought others ought to hear his message too.  With his permission I’m posting an edited version of the email.
Steve, a serious warning:

STAY OFF THE FLUME.  It's at the bottom of the biggest avalanche chute on Mt. Juneau, and the chute is loaded.

I don’t know who gave you the advice, but they haven't lived here long enough to know...  See the maps and photos at

http://www.juneau.org/manager/documents/Juneau_urban_avalanche_photos_part2.pdf


where Page 11-12-13 is the result of a big avalanche coming down that chute.  I was in the Capitol Building at the time, and it was like an eclipse as the snow cloud enveloped downtown.  The runout filled the canyon and came up above the road where the trees are still missing.

I've lived here all my life, and I won't go up Basin Road after any significant snow build up on the top of Mt. Juneau.  I certainly would not now go past the Gold Creek bridge, nor on the flume side of the canyon.

I also wouldn't go running out Thane Road, which is a beautiful run/bike ride when it's not avalanche season.  Once there is significant snow buildup on Mt. Roberts, Thane Road is an avalanche zone once you pass the GCI earth station and the Thane Campground, which are right on the edge of the avalanche runout.  See
http://arcticglass.blogspot.com/2007/03/more-avalanche-photos.html

[avalanche photo from the link]
The best running alternative this time of year is Old Glacier Highway past the high school to Twin Lakes.  The highway is relatively low traffic and has wide shoulders and good sidewalks.

But please, if you value your life, stay off the flume until April.  Just look at the avalanche runout above the flume from the Basin road side as you go around the corner to the causeway.

BTW, one of my ancestors built that flume.  The water goes to a power house below the Gov's mansion, across the parking lot from the Federal Building.  It's been generating power since the early  1920s.

HarpboyAK

So, despite the fact that these trails are steps from our house, I guess I'll be exploring other running paths.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Short Jog Along Flume Trail

Taking running advice from non-runners is never a good idea. Yesterday our friend drove us up our street (so far we'd only gone down into town) and showed us the start of Perseverance Trail and the Flume trail across the way as well as the creek trail in the middle that goes to Cope Park.  When I asked about running it as a loop, he seemed to think it was a bit far.   Well, today I decided to explore what all was there.  The first picture is not far from our place, looking down Gold Street along the east side of downtown Juneau. (from 1 to the bottom of the map) (Juneau readers, please indulge my exploring your well known paths.)  But I was headed in the opposite direction, and fortunately, I'm already pretty much at the top of the hill.  From here it loops to the right onto Basin Road.



There were people walking their dogs along here, still some houses, but very quickly I'm into pretty dramatic scenery.  Well, with the very steep mountains all around Juneau, it's all in dramatic scenery. 





At 2 there's a bridge and a branch to the Flume trail.  But I wasn't sure and went over the bridge and up what appeared to be a trail, though it was covered with snow and there weren't really obvious footprints.  I think it was a trail, but it looked like it was going up and I knew that wasn't right so I backtracked to the bridge and took this picture up Gold Creek  (Basin Road here is blocked to cars during the winter) toward Perseverance Trail and Juneau's gold mining origins.  The second picture of the creek looks to the bridge to the Flume Trail.




So I got to the Flume Trail.  It's really pretty short.  So, what's a flume?  Not exactly an everyday word.  According to Wikipedia:

A flume is an open artificial water channel, in the form of a gravity chute, that leads water from a diversion dam or weir completely aside a natural flow. Often, the flume is an elevated box structure (typically wood) that follows the natural contours of the land. These have been extensively used in hydraulic mining and working placer deposits for gold, tin and other heavy minerals. They are also used in the transportation of logs in the logging industry, electric power generation and to power various mill operations by the use of a waterwheel.
And that's exactly what this is.  A wooden box following the contours alongside a creek.  And while this is Gold Creek, I had to use almost the full citation because it was the last purpose that was important here -  electric power generation. 




Here's more from the sign at the end of the flume (3 on the map.)  The sign was pretty hard to read - it wasn't just the photo - so I did find the same description in PDF form.









And from here I had a glimpse through the trees back into the modern world - Juneau and Douglas across the water. 









Now I was out of the woods and back on a street with houses.  And very quickly came to the sign pointing to the stairs to the cemetery. 



We'd passed the cemetery yesterday as we were being driven around, so I figured the cemetery was probably a good way to go. 


 
Steep stairs down.   Then past the cemetery and past this brightly colored house.  I'm starting to realize that although Juneau has longer days in the winter than Anchorage, in Anchorage we probably get more light.  We've been here about five days and I don't think I've seen any blue sky, let alone sunshine.  I remember coming to Juneau once in May and it was sunny for the three days I was there.  But the people in Juneau said it was the tenth, eleventh, and twelfth days of sun for the year.  So, a brightly painted house like this adds a little cheer. 

And then I was in Cope Park.  Just a stairway from home. 
I've played tennis at this park tennis court once.  But that was summer.  Is this why they invented green tennis balls?
And then the stairs back up.

Back on 7th Street and almost home








I hadn't noticed this sign before. I'll have to follow up and see what exactly they study.



All in all, it turned out to be a very short and easy run.  The post took longer to put up.  [If you ever wonder why blogspot bloggers like to post large pictures in the center of the page instead of alternating left and right like this, it's because this is a pain in the neck to do on blogger.  The pictures and text do not show up in the composing window the way they will on the blog.  Even the preview, while closer, isn't accurate.  It's only when I actually post this that I'll know if it worked or not.  If not, I have to go back in and move things around.  Blogger, are you listening?]

For people who haven't been to Juneau (probably most of you), the map just shows downtown which is pretty small (manageable by human power.)  There is more of Juneau further north and south as well as Douglas Island.  It's been Alaska's state capital since 1906.  According to Wikipedia, the 2008 Census population estimate was 30,988 and the
 area of Juneau is larger than that of Rhode Island and Delaware individually and almost as large as the two states combined.

Monday, January 04, 2010

Share the Damn Link

Below is an email I got today asking me to trade links with another website. That was a key strategy offered for getting more hits when I first started blogging. But then it was more bloggers linking to each other. Technorati, one of the sites that tracks blogs and ranks them,
now says
Please note that links in blogrolls don’t count towards Authority, as they are not indicative of interest in relevant content; we stopped including blogroll links in August 2008.

On occasion I've mentioned ways sellers have attempted to advertise on this site.  Some leave comments - usually with a couple of generic compliments about the site first.  Then put in a link to an unrelated website.  Usually I just delete the comments unless they are relevant to the post.  For example, I deleted one that sold modern Italian furniture that was in a comment on a large Asian furniture complex that we visited in Thailand, but I left a link to dvd's that taught children Mandarin Chinese that was linked to a post where I had pictures of children writing Chinese characters.

Others offer to pay you if you write a positive post about their products.  They pay more if you don't mention that you're getting paid.  I'm sure a lot of bloggers must take them up on that, but I think that's pretty slimy.  People buy things that bloggers endorse because they think this is a genuine testimonial. And it hurts blogger credibility in general when people find out some bloggers are paid to do that.   It's an example of how the market contaminates honest dialogue. (I'm not against the market, I'm just for honest, sensible understanding of its benefits and costs.)


Dear owner of http://whatdoino-steve.blogspot.com,


I'm the webmaster of http://www.sharethedamnroad.com.


We came across your site on the Internet and feel that it would fit
perfectly into our collection of quality links at
http://www.sharethedamnroad.com/content/link-partners.
1. Here's the carrot as he works on my vanity by calling this a quality link.
2. It's about bikes, and this is a bicycle friendly blog.  But it's not like the two Alaska bike links I have on the right that talk about biking in general.  It's selling bike jerseys.
3. And it's a generic email.  He didn't even use my first name, which isn't hard to find.
We've already placed a link to your website along with a description at our site on the page, which we encourage you to check for accuracy. Once you place a link back to use, your link will be moved up to a more visable spot on the page.
3. And I get a link from them, and when I get back to them I get more visible shelf space.
We'd appreciate it if you place a link back to our site using the following HTML code (just copy and paste it into your links page): http://www.sharethedamnroad.com" title="Cycling Jeresys That Make A Statement">Road Cycling Jerseys Cycling Jeresys That Make A Statement On your page, the code will look like this: Road Cycling Jerseys Cycling Jeresys That Make A Statement If you'd like the description of your site modified, the category changed, or if you have any other cross-promotion ideas, feel free to email us. Please note that if you don't place a reciprocal link to us somewhere on your site within a week, the link to your site will automatically be removed from our directory. Please link to us using the code above, and let us know where we can find the link.
4. And now the stick - put something up or we're going to take your link down.
Best regards, Jonathan Ciaccio Cycling@ciaccioseo.com This is NOT SPAM -- this is a one-time reciprocal link request. We have NO INTENTION to email you again. You can also reply to this email with REMOVE in the subject line to make sure we'll NEVER send you any more e-mails in the future.
I'd guess the difference between this and spam is that these aren't computer generated messages to zillions of people.  At least I'm assuming that these went to bike related blogs.  Though biking is not the focus of this blog.


As these things go, this is fairly reasonable. It came as an email, not as a comment. That's good.  It's bike related and I like that too. I'm guessing someone saw the post I did with the Share (bike) sign. But I do think wearing "Share the Damn Road" on your back when you bike through traffic is more likely to get you in trouble (all you need to do is piss off one driver) than increase support for cyclists.

So I wrote back saying I'd probably put up a post. And so I have. Not to get a link on his site.  It gives me a chance to remind readers of the kinds of things people do to advertise in the blogging world.

Boycott blogs with non-transparent paid advertising testimonials - if you can figure out which ones they are.

Thursday, December 31, 2009

Think Bike in the New Year

Some of you might be wondering why I keep taking pictures of bike racks.  We all see what we are looking for.  When my wife was pregnant, suddenly we saw all the other pregnant women, a phenomenon we'd barely noticed.  Nothing had changed in the world, only in our heads.  When we bought our first Subaru, we suddenly began seeing how many Subarus were on the streets of Anchorage.  



[This first picture was at the Providence Hospital garage yesterday.  I biked over (about a mile) to get my teeth cleaned.  There were three bikes (one fat bike on the right) and two mountain bikes in this rack - mine's the fourth - and there were four in the other rack in the background.  This is winter.  I've never seen more than one or two bikes here in the winter before.  These bike racks are close to full, again, in the winter.  The summer is going to mean that Prov will need more bike racks for sure.]

Cars dominate life in the US and increasingly elsewhere.  But in many ways they are the default status quo, bolstered by habit, by advertising, by city planning, and by our mental models that say we can't live without cars.  But my personal experience is that using alternative transportation - such as bikes or walking or buses - when feasible is really liberating.  When challenged to change, we think about what we're giving up, not what we're going to gain. Foot power not only saves petroleum, the air, and parking spaces,  it also keeps us healthier, connects us to the world we usually whiz by - the trees, the flowers, interesting houses, new shops (old shops we never saw) and to other people.

It's NOT either/or.  We won't eliminate the auto.  That's not the point.  We'll just use it less.  If everyone drove 20% less, that would be a huge impact.  So we just need to rethink some of the short trips.  A mile walk is extremely doable.  It shouldn't take more than 20 minutes once someone is fit.   But walks of 3 miles - hikers do it all the time as recreation - are also very doable.  But few people think about walking from downtown to UAA, but it's about a 60 - 80 minute walk.  I don't have time for that, you say.  But if you walk, you can skip the trip to the gym.  When we talk about bikes, the distances we can go increases.



[This second picture was last night at Benson and LaTouche.  The biker is in the white oblong.  It would have been better in video as his head lamp and bike lamp both flashed on and off.  These LED lights are making winter bikers much more visible to drivers.]




So, there are two reasons I do these posts:

1.  To raise people's awareness that more and more people are biking, even in the winter,  change people's idea of what is possible.  It's not just fanatics who are on their bikes.  It's normal, average people who have found that it works in their lives.

2.  To document the changes that are going on as people do start using their bikes - some just making occasional use of the bike instead of a car when it's a short trip and others actually commute every day by bike, some doing ten mile round trips or more, even in winter. 

It's the last day of the year.  Even if you aren't going to write down any New Year's resolutions, this still is a time to reflect on how we've lived our lives and how we might do it better. 

I urge you to 'see' all the bikers around you.  I urge you to try to abandon your car for at least one trip a week - and either walk or bike instead.  Start small.  You're parked at Barnes and Noble.  Instead of driving the short distance to Blockbusters for a video, walk there and back.  Once you start making some small trips like that without the car, you'll start thinking about other times you could walk or bike instead.  For some, you can start in January.  For others, go ahead, wait until April when the snow is almost gone and there's more light.  I promise you, you'll feel better. 

Thursday, December 24, 2009

Share





This sign I saw on Latouche today seemed appropriate for Christmas Eve.  I also got a letter from Wat Alaska Yanna Vararam - a Thai/Lao Buddhist Temple in town.  It looks ahead to the new year
. . .heartedly blessing you and your family be free from all kinds of suffering, physical and mental suffering.  May you all be free from animosity.  May you all be free from the external disturbance and internal disturbance.  May the peace and pure happiness arise in your mind and leading your mind to the right way, the right way of being, right conduct in action, right conduct in thought and right conduct in speech.
So, I get good vibes this Christmas Eve from the bicycle folks (I assume that's from them) and from the Buddhists.  But as I was almost home after dropping someone off at the airport - Mt. Susitna bathed in setting sunlight was also sending blessings - I was jarred by Senator Mitch Mcconnel's belligerence on the radio news just before the vote on health care reform.   Here's a link ("this fight isn't over"):
I guarantee you, the people who vote for this bill are going to get an earful when they finally get home for the first time since Thanksgiving.  They know there is widespread opposition to this monstrosity.  And I want to assure you Mr. President.  This fight isn’t over.  In fact, this fight is long from over.  My colleagues and I will work to stop this bill from becoming law.  That’s the clear will of the American people and we will continue to fight on their behalf.
Senator, when does American good sportsmanship kick in? You lost this vote 60% to 39%. That's a landslide in most elections. (And that missing vote was from your Kentucky Republican colleague Sen. Bunning.) It's not a perfect bill I agree. But much of that is due to unrelenting refusal to cooperate in any way by Republicans.

Senator, on this Christmas Eve, I guess the best  I can do is pass on the Buddhist blessings to you:
May you all be free from animosity.  May you all be free from the external disturbance and internal disturbance.  May the peace and pure happiness arise in your mind and leading your mind to the right way, the right way of being, right conduct in action, right conduct in thought and right conduct in speech.

[While looking up McConnel's words I did find some interesting trivia.  McConnel was born in 1942.  His first wife, Sherrill Redmon, is now the Director of the Women's History Archives at Smith College which was founded in 1942. His current wife, Elaine Chao, was born in Taiwan, and is the former director of the Peace Corps and former Secretary of Labor. He has three daughters from his first marriage.]

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Finally Out to Cross Country Ski

Don Chan came up to Anchorage to work as hospitality coordinator for the Anchorage International Film Festival.  All the film makers I know were more than pleased with how well he looked after them.




(Learning to turn around.)



  He worked so hard he never really got a chance to see much of Anchorage except the routes between the venues and places where people were staying.


 
I'd invited him to go cross country skiing earlier this week when everything was so covered in ice and snow, but the temperature was near 0˚F (-17˚C).  But it's warmed up (about 30˚F/-1˚C) and I offered to take him out this morning.  I decided to not even look at my computer this morning before I left.  I got to the B&B he's staying at and rang the bell.  No one around.  I walked to the back, but everything was locked and dark inside. 






Just before deciding to leave (he wasn't answering his cell either) I heard someone say she'd be down.  She let me in and I ended up waking him up.  Turns out he'd sent me an email this morning canceling because he'd been up all night working on the Palm Springs Film Festival.  But he said, "Well I'm up now so let's go."

It was his first time on cross country skis and he did fine.  We did about two miles on the beautiful - and mostly flat - Campbell Airstrip trails.  Then I dropped him off downtown on the way to a lunch meeting.  
 

This government vehicle was parked at the trailhead with its motor on when we arrived.  An hour or so later, the motor was still running.  We didn't see anyone around.  There may have been some logical explanation.  It was plugged into the solar panel on the pole, so given the distinct lack of sun, perhaps it was charging something up.  What do I know?


Saturday, December 19, 2009

Winter Views Before Solstice


 The winter solstice is due Dec 21 at 8:47 AM Alaska Standard Time this year according to timeanddate.com.  Monday morning.  Two years ago I did a post on Jean Meeus whose calculations we use to determine the solstice.  We got here fast this year and by Wednesday  we'll start gaining light each day.  I took the picture above on Friday.  The sun doesn't rise high over the horizon, but it's out almost five an a half hours. 

 
 I had a meeting at UAA on Thursday, and while it had snowed a bit overnight, I still wanted to bike over.  They tend to keep the bike trails well plowed on campus.

 
A little bit of sun was out Thursday as well as you can see in this picture from Rasmuson Hall.  The ice fogged trees are still completely and spectacularly white.



And here's a common winter problem.  The bike trail was cleared fairly quickly, but as the snow plows repeat their plowing of main streets get they push the snow in the bike and pedestrian paths. 

Thursday, December 17, 2009

Snow Biker Anchorage

I see a lot more people riding their bikes this winter and I like to point that out whenever I can in hopes that others might realize that bike commuting is doable, even in the winter.  It helps if the distance isn't too far as is the case of this biker I saw when I was clearing the snow from the driveway on Tuesday. 

Saturday, December 12, 2009

AIFF 2009 - Too Many Movies Mind's Going Fast


On the way to the Bear Tooth, there was a moose on one of the busiest intersections in town - Northern Lights and A Street. 


At the Bear Tooth, the Martini Matinee had five shorts scheduled in the program and two were added, so that's seven. 

Supershorts at Out North had 14.

Then back to Bear Tooth we saw "The Least Among You." (Something coming soon.)


Finally,  the shorts program "Love and Pain" which had 10. 

So that's 32 films yesterday.  So it's ok that I can't remember them all. 

For this post I'll just talk about two films from Super Shorts 1:  The Eclectic Collection - The Burger and Shave - and one from the Martini Matinee - Fat Bike. 


(The projection booth at Out North.)

All three of the films hit home.  Shave was a kid talking about his dad who always had a mustache until one day his dad came out without his mustache and the kid freaked out.  It wasn't his dad.  He'd only known the dad with a mustache.  On my first trip back to Thailand after serving in the Peace Corps there, I decided I needed to shave my beard.  Facial hair just wasn't cool in Thailand back in those days (today it is).  So I came out of the bathroom in Tokyo with a naked face, not thinking that much about it.  But my son, about 12 at the time, looked at me stunned.  "This is a trick isn't it?  Put your beard back on."  This was from a smart kid, so it must have been a real shock. It had been about eight years since he'd seen me without a beard and after watching the film, I understand his reaction better.


The Burger should be shown to all men before they get married - or maybe earlier.  It's about a woman who suggests that her husband (boyfriend?) order a burger at the restaurant.  He doesn't understand why she doesn't order one herself.  Women, you can explain it to the men in your lives.  Or better yet find a copy of the movie. 




Fat Bike was about riding bikes all winter in Anchorage.  They use very fat tires to ride through snow.  The picture is of the Susitna 100 mile race.  They had to walk their bikes a lot because it was snowing a lot during the race.  There was even a glimpse of friends - Yvonne and Scott - among the racers.  It is wonderful to ride your bike any time and when there's snow out, there's a particular bike high you get. 

Tuesday, November 24, 2009

November Challenge


November is when my running schedule tends to go down the drain.  It's colder.  It's darker longer.  It snows.  The body hasn't quite adjusted to the new weather and ground cover.  And I seem to find lots of excuses to say 'mañana.'

This year I came back from California with a sore heal, so I obviously couldn't run for a while.  Then I did run, but various things got in the way again.  I had morning meetings and I like to run before I eat in the morning.
Once I eat, well, I can't run.  It got cold. I did use my bike, even after it snowed.   There wasn't enough snow to cross country ski, or so I told myself



But yesterday it was 30˚F.  The sun was peeking through the clouds.  My body was fine.  No meetings.  I had no excuse.



The raven chortled as I ran by.





Through the neighborhoods until I got to the bike path.








And I wasn't the only one running.  I saw four other runners in my 45 minutes out. 

Despite the fact I hadn't run since early in the month, these two were so slow, even I passed them. 





And when I was almost home, I saw that those trucks at the bus stop last week seems to have resulted in these new street lights.

It seemed like they weren't fiinished.  They've made this new bus cut out so that the sidewalk/bike path is now wide enough for more than one person.  Not sure about the need for the new lights.  A bus shelter, even just a bench, would probably be more helpful.  But maybe that's coming next. 

Don't let the winter keep you inside.  Get out of the car and enjoy moving.

AIFF 2009, Anchorage, Fat Bikes, and Blogging

I try to remind people now and then that biking is a real alternative form of transportation, it's not just recreation.  Our infrastructure and city planning make it hard to do without a bigger vehicle sometimes, but biking is possible for a lot of our travel, even in the winter.

So, I do want to recognize that there are a number of Alaska blogs that focus on biking and there's even an Alaskan biking film in the Anchorage International Film Festival.

Here's a short post about the short film Fat Bike from Bicycle Commuters of Alaska: (BCA also supported the film)
Carl Battreall took a fantastic first step into film making with Fat Bike by being accepted to the Boston Bike Film Fest and the Anchorage International Film Fest.  But the news gets even better.  The Boston Bike Film Fest, which took place last Friday and Saturday has announced that Fat Bike has won First Place!
Congratulations goes out to Carl for making such a great film. This is exciting news for all riders and especially those who brave the elements all winter long. And perhaps it will serve as great inspiration to those considering winter riding.
BCA sends along a hearty congratulations to Carl and all those that helped with the making of Fat Bike.
BCA talks about biking everyday so I'm adding them to my Alaska Blog list.  Another one is Bicycles and Icicles.  It has a long list of Alaska bike related blogs.  These blogs are serious crusaders working to change how decisions are made about transportation and planning by living their ideals and fighting  to make bike commuting safer and easier.



Fat Bike Trailer from indieAK films on Vimeo.

Fat Bike  U.S. (ALASKA)  26 minutes
Director: Carl Battreall
Fat Bike is part of the Snowdance 2 program showing
Tuesday Dec. 8,  5:45pm  at Alaska Experience Theater
Saturday Dec. 12,  5:30 at Out North

It's also part of the Martini Matinee presentation  Friday Dec. 11, at 2:30pm Bear Tooth

Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Flame and Citron - Left Me Speechless

Really, I have nothing to say.  I've linked to two reviews below, but talking about the movie just trivializes it.  The reviews don't tell you much more than the reviewers' knowledge of film history and the technical side of the movie.

It was like a strong wind blew through my mind, stirring up old ideas that had long ago settled like dust in my brain.  I have no idea how to grasp hold of any of those specs of dust, and really no desire to.  I'll just let them naturally find some place to rest and perhaps it will all make some sense later on.

If that makes no sense:  I was blown away by the movie.  But even to tell you what it's about (Danish underground in WWII) is like describing a shiny red Porsche as a vehicle to get from here to there.  At this point, for me the film is just something shiny that has whizzed by and I don't yet know enough to label it a Porsche or even red.  But maybe the words will come in the next week or so. 


For those who need specifics here's Robert Ebert's take.  And here's what Manhola Dargis at the NY Times had to say.



No, we didn't bike to the Bear Tooth.  It was 5˚F and falling and getting dark.  But there were two bikes there.  And they weren't covered with snow or ice.  And we did see two other people riding as we came.  It seems to me each year Anchorage has significantly more people riding as a regular mode of transportation, not just recreation, and not just in the summer.  I did bike Monday to Bede's anniversary.  But it was warmer - about 12˚F -  and sunny.

Thursday, October 08, 2009

Venice Beach Skate Plaza II

J and I biked over to the new skateboard plaza in the afternoon Wednesday and watched some more. There were a lot more people skating and watching than in the morning. (See previous post.) The palm trees are freshly planted and haven't quite opened up yet on top.

I could just watch these guys (and a few gals) zoom back and forth up and down and around. In the morning I didn't see a single helmet, but in the afternoon a number of people wore them and knee and elbow pads. It won't be long before someone gets hurt. In the previous post I put up the sign that says LA has no liability for injuries.





[I did a post two years ago comparing viddler and youtube. At the time in addition to video quality, viddler had lots of other benefits youtube didn't have - like taking larger and longer files. Youtube now takes larger files, but as a recent commenter on that post said, Youtube quality can't compare. I did this in youtube and viddler. Youtube processed it much faster so I'm putting it up, but the quality is outrageously bad. As soon as I can get the Viddler, I'll put it up too. In the meantime you can compare this to the video in the previous post.]

Skater shoes are a big part of skate boarding.









Here's looking back at the Venice Boardwalk from the skate plaza. (I still want to write skate park, but the sign says plaza. I don't know what the kids call the place.)