tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post399440402351260090..comments2024-03-27T15:44:43.564-08:00Comments on What Do I Know?: "The skills you need to produce a right answer are exactly the skills you need to recognize what a right answer is."Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-80147596385974435452016-04-15T20:39:41.241-08:002016-04-15T20:39:41.241-08:00Check out the interview with Arie Kruglanski on &q...Check out the interview with Arie Kruglanski on "The Science of Closed-Mindedness," on the podcast "Point of Inquiry."<br />http://www.pointofinquiry.org/arie_kruglanski_the_science_of_closed-mindedness/<br />-MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-39748951077457861722016-04-12T11:48:31.246-08:002016-04-12T11:48:31.246-08:00Thanks. It's thinking out loud stimulated by ...Thanks. It's thinking out loud stimulated by Dunning/Kruger. The word - incompetence - is there. One of the problems I have had with post-modernists (there's lots I liked) was the idea that all sets of values are equal. I get it on the one hand, but on the other it feels so wrong. Humans have some pretty universal values (murder is bad, do onto others, etc.), though the values wear different dress in different cultures. The way I understood Dunning/Kruger to use the word competence was pretty objective - something that could be fairly easily proven. Even given the abstractions of proving good policy, so much of what they’ve done, are doing, is pretty clearly incompetent, starting with the LIO and the oil credits. But, on the other hand, yes, calling someone incompetent is not the quickest way to winning someone’s trust. And every month at the Citizens Climate Lobby meetings I’m reminded that ‘the enemy’ is really a human being and listening to them rather than attacking them is the way to move forward and get something done. And with pushing a carbon fee, that seems to be working. But here, I don’t know that I have the ability or the access to do the kind of talking that is necessary. <br /><br />I’m assuming that the conclusion you’re agreeing with is about the legislature, not the Dunning/Kruger, but maybe both. And it’s important to make it clear that the ‘incompetence’ refers to specific actions and decision making in a specific sphere, and not to the person as a whole. (Though if we examined other spheres, who knows what we’d find. But I bet some of them are competent fishers or hunters, or musicians, carpenters, etc.)Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-78883489233070678102016-04-09T23:32:01.505-08:002016-04-09T23:32:01.505-08:00But then, there's the incompetency of doubt I ...But then, there's the incompetency of doubt I would lay at the feet of academic process. How does one make a decision if one knows a better solution awaits? You admit this, but still accept their premise. Indecision is a problem in politics, too, after all, as you point out.<br /><br />All together, Steve, good stuff. But I think the 'incompetency' model of this analysis will get just about as far as substituting the word 'privilege' for racism in matters of cultural work and class in America.<br /><br />To be specific, it's insulting. It assumes superiority if one only gets a better perspective -- theirs. While I can agree the conclusion, the methods are a bit lacking in their ability to move the human in us.<br /><br />We are not simply brains in vats, after all. We think with bodies, we are tribal in affiliation, both in custom and thought.<br /><br />I will think on this essay. It's a good start. Thanks.Jacob Dugan-Brausehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287631724339961459noreply@blogger.com