tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post3741164632012350341..comments2024-03-27T15:44:43.564-08:00Comments on What Do I Know?: Anchorage Rallies In Protest of Supreme Court Election DecisionStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-78705306705877724882022-07-10T16:59:32.454-08:002022-07-10T16:59:32.454-08:00'What privilege did I have that got me the def...'What privilege did I have that got me the deferment that you didn't have?'<br /><br />My argument is that you got a four years get out of jail free card because you went to school. Tell me why studying English Literature gets you out of the draft for four years and working in a sewing machine factory does not? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-75567516531101136702022-07-05T22:44:34.388-08:002022-07-05T22:44:34.388-08:00Sorry, I'm not following. Since you were 1A, e...Sorry, I'm not following. Since you were 1A, everyone not 1A is privileged? Based on your argument, someone who makes $10 per hour is privileged because someone else makes only $7 an hour? That seems to be your argument. I chose to go to college when i graduated from high school. My parents knew nothing about how college worked in the US. I did all the work to find out. Took the necessary admission tests. Turned in all the paperwork. It was very cheap and an option for just about anyone at that time. Enrollment at Community College also gave someone a deferment. <br />Generally, 'privileged' suggests a set of distinct advantages that most people don't have - wealth, connections, or other advantages beyond what the average person had that enables them to achieve something - like not being drafted, or getting into college. If you are suggesting that being white was the privilege, sure that made it easier for me than had I been black. But lots of white men enlisted or were drafted so I don't see that as the privilege that got me deferred. What did I have other than being in the right place at the right time and the ability and initiative to get into college? What privilege did I have that got me the deferment that you didn't have? You haven't really explained why your classmates were all going to college and you weren't. Maybe you need to explain what you mean by privileged. It's a word thrown around by many, often as an excuse why they didn't achieve what the other person achieved. My family was middle class. They worked their way up from pretty much nothing. That's not my definition of privileged. Stevehttps://whatdoino-steve.blogspot.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-58211730517459801462022-07-05T14:07:40.794-08:002022-07-05T14:07:40.794-08:00'My privilege, if that’s what you want to call...'My privilege, if that’s what you want to call it, was living in California when tuition was really cheap.' Your privilege was not being 1-A like people who could not get a deferment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-59970924708013132702022-06-29T21:01:57.945-08:002022-06-29T21:01:57.945-08:00This sounds like something Oliver would write. Exc...This sounds like something Oliver would write. Excuse me if I’m wrong. <br /><br />I wrote “all” men had to register for the draft. That was true. I should have then written ‘most’ stood a good chance of being drafted.<br /><br />The rules changed as the war ramped up as you note with the introduction of the lottery. But even so, most men were liable to be drafted, though it depended in part on their draft board quotas. <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8095165/ " rel="nofollow">Here’s from a Census report</a>: “The proportion of the adults who had completed one or more years of college was 21 percent in 1970 . . . “<br /><br /><br />Since the vast majority of men in 1970 (79%) didn’t have one or more year of college, they were eligible to be drafted. But college students were eligible to be drafted once they graduated. And in 1966 college students had to take a test and get a good enough score to keep their deferment. <br /><br />So the vast majority of US men had a good chance of getting drafted. <br /><br />You use the term “privileged class.” That seems pretty loaded. After WW II, the GI Bill made it financially possible for any veteran to go to college. Both my parents arrived in the US in the 1930s with little money and few possessions. Both had to work full time to make ends meet. My mother never went to college. My father took some Community College classes at night when he was in his 40s - not to get a degree, but to learn. <br /><br />Tuition at UCLA my first year was $68 a semester. My parents paid that and I had to live at home and commute (by bus and bike and later by motor scooter.) Later I was able to work about 3 hours a day, five days a week to pay for my room and board on campus. My privilege, if that’s what you want to call it, was living in California when tuition was really cheap. I also had enough smarts to get into UCLA. But getting into the local community college would have also gotten a deferment. <br /><br />Oh, I <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8095165/" rel="nofollow">would add that</a> <br /><br />“Less well studied is President Kennedy’s 1963 Executive Order (EO) 11098 that allowed fathers to qualify for a “hardship deferment.” In 1969, over 4 million U.S. men held hardship deferments—more than twice the number with student deferments.”<br /><br />You clearly don’t have to be a member of the ‘privileged class’ to get someone pregnant. <br />Stevehttps://whatdoino-steve.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-79179820329184832042022-06-29T09:23:04.209-08:002022-06-29T09:23:04.209-08:00Magats pretend to be pro-life. Abortions are stati...Magats pretend to be pro-life. Abortions are statistically safer than child birth. Forcing all pregnancies to end in birth will increase infant mortality. So where's the pro-life?mike from iowahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05493799586846040115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-705907926364492022-06-28T20:31:46.952-08:002022-06-28T20:31:46.952-08:00'During the 1960's the protesting against ...'During the 1960's the protesting against the Vietnam war was invigorated by the fact that all 18 year old men had to register for the draft and stood a decent chance of being sent to Vietnam to fight. '<br />Not true Steve, I graduated HS in 1969 in June. July I got the notice that I was 1-A and August I was called for my physical. This is while most of my friends who were going to college got a student deferment. The decent chance came after the draft lottery in 1969 when everyone one was treated equal and the privileged class was treated like everyone else. You get a student deferment? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com