tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post1080952811614001345..comments2024-03-27T15:44:43.564-08:00Comments on What Do I Know?: Eight Memorable Passages From Apple’s Fiery Response to the FBIStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-23090103143696769782016-03-01T15:58:51.894-09:002016-03-01T15:58:51.894-09:00Sorry, Steve, the post does not persuade me. It&#...Sorry, Steve, the post does not persuade me. It's a slippery-slope argument -- if we build it, they will misuse it later -- and more smoke than fire in my opinion. And I was seriously turned off by the smartass tone of the commentary, as though writing a brief with lots of incendiary sound bites is proof of the validity of the argument.<br /><br />Do we really believe that Apple can't unencrypt their own devices now? Do we really believe that Apple is taking this "principled" stand because it is a great defender of constitutional rights and not because its business model depends on people thinking they can trust Apple? (When we all know Apple is willing to sell all kinds of collected info about us to anybody with money to pay for it.) Personally I trust the US government more than I trust Apple (neither one 100%).<br /><br />I will concede that the FBI shouldn't have done whatever they did to sabotage their own access to the phone data. But doesn't this sort of fall under the heading of inevitable discovery? If we would have figured it out in the normal course of events, (i.e. if the FBI hadn't changed the password) then we should be allowed to use it as evidence, even if the actual moment of seizure was improper. kathy in KYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-6080758474117041062016-02-29T06:58:31.340-09:002016-02-29T06:58:31.340-09:00Apple has already unlocked over 70 I Phones for va...Apple has already unlocked over 70 I Phones for various reasons so why is this all of a sudden a "problem"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-82176702220095736572016-02-29T06:47:06.963-09:002016-02-29T06:47:06.963-09:00Kathy, I'm sure you linked to the article. Re...Kathy, I'm sure you linked to the article. Read it again. It's not like Apple can just open this particular phone. They have encrypted phones so no one can get in. Even Apple. In this case, the FBI is telling them to set up a project to break their own encryption. Once they do that, the encryption is no longer good at all. Hackers will have a back door into everything. Oppressive (as well as relatively democratic) governments will have a way into spying on dissidents and anyone who bothers them. <br /><br />Go back and read the post carefully. I see this as a bad tradeoff - short term small gain for long term huge loss. The FBI seems to have more than enough information in this case. This is an easy way to get, they say, more. But it’s not clear how important the information is. But at the expense of exposing everyone’s data. And they’re own lack of cooperation with Apple in the beginning means they locked the phone themselves. <br /><br />It’s the FBI’s job to push for what they want, but it’s everyone else’s job to push back and make them prove that their short term need outweighs the long term costs. And we need to be more aware of those costs. Since you do come here regularly Kathy, I hope at least this post will cause you to find out more about this. My sense is that your reaction is what the FBI is counting on.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-10291269210186776122016-02-28T19:10:55.425-09:002016-02-28T19:10:55.425-09:00I have to disagree. What is the terrible preceden...I have to disagree. What is the terrible precedent that would be set if the government obtains the phone info of people who are (a) known terrorists, (b) have killed many people and (c) are dead, thus having no privacy rights? That future dead, murderous terrorists might similarly have their phones unlocked? I can't work up too much concern for protecting the rights of that class of individuals.kathy in KYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-56424410672513078852016-02-28T13:52:36.913-09:002016-02-28T13:52:36.913-09:00It really does seem like the FBI is less intereste...It really does seem like the FBI is less interested in getting the data through this case than in securing the precedent.northierthanthouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04831362921459744537noreply@blogger.com