tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post8248349449479716973..comments2024-03-27T15:44:43.564-08:00Comments on What Do I Know?: To Know The Son, Know the Dad - So What Can We Learn From Trump's Dad?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-59814617676475275862016-03-15T14:08:39.612-08:002016-03-15T14:08:39.612-08:00'Genetics' was catch-all, including many p...'Genetics' was catch-all, including many pre-determinants. Of course that, together with who we were raised by, the communities which form us, the culture and language we learn and use, the religion and world view we accept and practice. But this only supports my analysis of Trump being that end result of things outside himself. <br /><br />To know what HE is responsible for, as if a person charged with culpable homicide -- that is the real task with this political apparition, I should think.<br /><br />I'd really rather not excuse his bad persona. Not when he parades it about as virtue.<br /><br />Fini.Jacob Dugan-Brausehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287631724339961459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-32290779128649811002016-03-15T09:51:48.467-08:002016-03-15T09:51:48.467-08:00It took a while to figure out what you were referr...It took a while to figure out what you were referring to. I kind of like the spelling rules of 1800, before <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/about-us/americas-first-dictionary" rel="nofollow">Webster published the first American English dictionary</a>, when you could write teem or team and no one cared. <br />And I hear your pain over editing comments. And I’ve been having even worse issues editing my comments BEFORE hitting publish. The screen jumps to the top of the post and editing is impossible. I just cut and paste them into a word processor, delete the original comment, and put up a new one. Clunky, but it works. I’m doing this now off the blog because it didn’t like my html code for the link, but jumps out of the comment box when I try to fix it there. <br /><br />Actually, now that I reread your comment and see you're referring to a tense change, I realize I haven't found the one you wanted to correct. And I wouldn't have noticed the one I did find without you're making me read more carefully.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-92127134570981715082016-03-15T09:34:02.167-08:002016-03-15T09:34:02.167-08:00Jacob - Genetics plays a role for those with stron...Jacob - Genetics plays a role for those with strong genetic traits. But even those cases, environment plays a role. Donald seems to have inherited his father's (and grandfather's) egocentric winner/loser view of the world genes, and they were further nurtured by his environment. Fred Jr. got genes that didn't match his dad's expectations and the conflict between following his nature and pleasing his dad seem to have tortured him. If Donald had had parents who acknowledged his strengths, but also modeled humility and empathy for him, who knows how he might have turned out?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-59661117682444029602016-03-15T00:39:13.375-08:002016-03-15T00:39:13.375-08:00And Steve, no matter how many times you mention I ...And Steve, no matter how many times you mention I can and should pre-write off-line, I don't. I saw I didn't catch a verb tense conflict from a word change until AFTER I clicked 'publish'.<br /><br />All I need is a post-publish edit function. For all this, the change needed was in "it does all make(s) sense" -- strike my now bracketed (s). Jacob Dugan-Brausehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287631724339961459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-53290048222742855572016-03-15T00:23:46.912-08:002016-03-15T00:23:46.912-08:00Well, genetics settles that, then. And as some Eur...Well, genetics settles that, then. And as some Europeans say about historical emigration, "Our lower classes left to America."<br /><br />And then the USA turned that European rejection into its vaunted 'wretched refuse of your teaming shore'.<br /><br />Perhaps Europe got it right. It appears in so many stories of immigration to the United States -- a likely genesis of America's rougher discourse, simpler vocabulary, its public anti-intellectualism, its hold to religion, its ever-present money culture. To me, it does all makes sense looking at who we once were, hungry for that 'new life'.<br /><br />In this story, the German Drumpf becomes the American Trump.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Jacob Dugan-Brausehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287631724339961459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-1480673692660640882016-03-14T14:06:33.206-08:002016-03-14T14:06:33.206-08:00Thanks, Anon 8:20. That Politico article says &qu...Thanks, Anon 8:20. That <a href="http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/the-man-who-made-trump-who-he-is-121647#" rel="nofollow">Politico article</a> says "to know the man, know the grandfather.' Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-84314781677895623682016-03-14T08:20:17.179-08:002016-03-14T08:20:17.179-08:00His father's father:
"One hundred and t...His father's father:<br /><br /><br />"One hundred and thirty years ago, in 1885, Friedrich Trump stepped off a boat in lower Manhattan with a single suitcase. Only sixteen years old, he had left a note for his widowed mother on the kitchen table back in Kallstadt, a village in southwestern Germany, and slipped off in the middle of the night. He didn’t want to work in the family vineyard or get a job as a barber, the profession for which he’d been trained. He wanted to become rich, and America was the place to do it.<br /><br />Friedrich wasted no time, and he did it by pushing the behavioral boundaries of his time, much as his grandson Donald would a century later. By the early 1890s, Friedrich had learned English; morphed from a skinny teenager into an adult man with a handlebar moustache; become a naturalized U.S. citizen, an easy matter at a time when there were no immigration quotas (much less debates about “birthright”); changed the spelling of his name to the more American-sounding Frederick; and made his way to Seattle, a wide-open city filled with single, rootless newcomers who’d arrived expecting to make their fortunes but found themselves facing the same uncertain economic prospects they’d wanted to leave behind.<br /><br />A quick study, Trump headed for a prime location, the city’s red-light district, known as the Lava Beds. There he leased a tiny storefront restaurant named the Poodle Dog, which had a kitchen and a bar and advertised “private rooms for ladies”–code for prostitutes. It would allow the resourceful Trump, who renamed it the Dairy Restaurant, to offer the restless, frustrated public some right-now satisfaction in the form of food, booze and easily available sex."<br /><br /> http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/the-man-who-made-trump-who-he-is-121647#<br /><br />At some point some people might wonder if there are any multi-generational patterns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-31940317528853921232016-03-14T07:23:44.688-08:002016-03-14T07:23:44.688-08:00His Dads name was Drumpf not TrumpHis Dads name was Drumpf not TrumpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-9071002620163610142016-03-14T07:13:30.772-08:002016-03-14T07:13:30.772-08:00Thanks, Kathy, for that link. It adds what I was ...Thanks, Kathy, for that link. It adds what I was missing and I'd updated the post.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-21645375272676944342016-03-14T05:59:27.634-08:002016-03-14T05:59:27.634-08:00NYTimes had a long article about Trump's older...NYTimes had a long article about Trump's older brother, a mild-mannered guy who was held in contempt by Dad because he wasn't tough enough for the business, and who later drank himself to death. This article said Donald was the favorite son (obviously tough enough). In fact, Dad wrote wimp brother out of his will, and after Dad's death, Donald reneged on his promise to take care of wimp's disabled grandson. No sympathy for wimps in that family.<br /><br />NYT story <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us/politics/for-donald-trump-lessons-from-a-brothers-suffering.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">here</a><br /><br />and though Donald was fourth of five children, he was the second son, so as wimp got read out of the family drama Donald became first son. kathy in KYnoreply@blogger.com