tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post6634208407158051430..comments2024-03-27T15:44:43.564-08:00Comments on What Do I Know?: Television, One Big Corporate Commercial - The Need For New Business Curriculum In Public SchoolsStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-64141225818051861582014-12-29T21:02:42.536-09:002014-12-29T21:02:42.536-09:00Barbara, that's why I offered the Orwellian op...Barbara, that's why I offered the Orwellian option. When the oppressors have to use force, at least the oppressed know what is happening. In the Orwell example, people have been brainwashed into thinking what the tyrant wants them to think. The Disney messages are similar. With Disney people are led to spend lots of money in an artificially happy world, a world where nature and adventure are tamed. <br /><br />One could reasonably argue that for a day or two Disneyland is an innocuous entertainment. But if it were so great, people would come without such deceptive advertising, disguised as a program. And when people use similar techniques to get voters to choose their candidates, or raise doubts about things like evolution and climate change, we're in trouble. Which we are. Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-50532664402473800912014-12-29T05:01:02.015-09:002014-12-29T05:01:02.015-09:00I know "Nazi Camp" is over the top, but ...I know "Nazi Camp" is over the top, but there is an overriding iron-fist-in-velvet glove feeling behind many of these "crowd-pleasing" enterprises. It's a short step seeing the evil behind most institutions (like organized religion) that cream the public in the name of doing good.Barbara Carlsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05463074148195784152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-35696879741713184922014-12-27T16:01:37.292-09:002014-12-27T16:01:37.292-09:00Anon, thanks for the links. They expand my though...Anon, thanks for the links. They expand my thoughts to far more ominous machinations than I had gotten to, linking the CIA to ABC. I'd urge readers to check them out. <br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird</a><br /><a href="http://www.smokershistory.com/abc.htm" rel="nofollow"> http://www.smokershistory.com/abc.htm</a><br /><br />I'd also urge commenters to go to the link for commenters on how to add links to your comments. I've added links above to Anon's references. People are much more likely to follow them if they are linked. Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-49388545445459562432014-12-27T15:56:46.557-09:002014-12-27T15:56:46.557-09:00Barbara, I can't even comment on my own blog a...Barbara, I can't even comment on my own blog anymore. I responded to this twice and both seem to have disappeared in the ether. Briefly, my experiences are similar to yours. Entranced by the tv shows Disneyland and Mickey Mouse Club as a kid, I was excited to go to the newly opened park way out in Anaheim. Generally impressed, I did get one big political lesson as the long line for the little cars I could drive myself got longer. We had to wait for Vice President Nixon to cut in front and get his ride in. <br /><br />Years later we took the kids to Disneyworld. That's when I noticed the crowd control techniques - moving sidewalks to keep people from dawdling, winding lines so you couldn't see how long the wait was, etc. <br /><br />But I think the Nazi comparison is misleading. Most everyone was there voluntarily, they all got out, not only alive, but mostly with smiles on their faces. Orwellian maybe, in that people were programmed to control themselves. Force and violence weren't necessary. Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10498066938213558757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-46957717038390217762014-12-27T04:51:01.203-09:002014-12-27T04:51:01.203-09:00The CIA has been in the business of media manipula...The CIA has been in the business of media manipulation for many, many years. <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird<br /><br />http://www.smokershistory.com/abc.htm<br /><br />Lowell Thomas, who had ties to Alaska, was one of the original founders of what eventually became ABC.<br /><br />My inoculation against all of this propaganda is to simply not watch television of any kind, save for The Simpsons® and Trailer Park Boys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30897652.post-42947775615487444982014-12-27T04:49:18.171-09:002014-12-27T04:49:18.171-09:00I was born in California and remember my first vis...I was born in California and remember my first visit to Disneyland with a bunch of girlfriends in the 1950s. We had a silly, good time (and we could all afford to go using our babysitting money).<br /><br />Jump thirty years and a visit, with my British partner John, to Disneyworld in Florida. We loved it, but came out feeling covered in treacle and waking up from a swirling manipulation of forced happiness. <br /><br />Between the first and second visits I learned a lot about the place from <br />a friend whose fulfilled adult ambition was to work at Disneyworld (boy, was he disillusioned -- he lasted only a few months). He said the Disney corporation has studied every aspect of its up-market carney business and the place is run like a Nazi camp. <br /><br />But $686 -- I had no idea! -- how manipulable people are!<br /><br /> But I really wanted to make another comment on your post: <br />Commerical-filled TV shows -- their days are numbered, as is television itself. How many people tape the shows to be able to fast-forward through the commercials? Commercial sales surely must be dropping and leaving network budgets thinner. Major networks suspend TV shows over every holiday period. How many series now have fewer episodes per year? <br />There is now a network -- CRAVE -- that only airs reruns. No new, expensive programs to finance.<br /><br />So... TV shows must hype their other shows, i.e., products, during the show time, in sneakier ways, and the gullible viewers think they are getting content. <br /><br />You see through it, but you are one in a million.Barbara Carlsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05463074148195784152noreply@blogger.com